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seanieb 39 minutes ago [-]
Congrats to to the Wiz team. Wiz is amazing. But, ugh, joining Google will result in less competition and all that entails. Not great for customers.
It's a pity going public isn't worth it anymore.
dlev_pika 16 minutes ago [-]
> will result in less competition
The system working as intended.
“Competition is for losers”
- Peter Thiel
999900000999 34 minutes ago [-]
Someone else will rise to compete.
Then Google will buy them too.
alephnerd 20 minutes ago [-]
> It's a pity going public isn't worth it anymore.
Israeli VC is uninterested in IPOs in general - too much of an operational headache and it's difficult to exit a position.
In most cases an IPO isn't worth it for founders because an IPO means you lose operational control.
tptacek 8 minutes ago [-]
This is the announcement of the completion of an acquisition that began a year ago.
StartupsWala 9 minutes ago [-]
The interesting part is that Wiz built its success largely on being cloud-agnostic. If Google keeps it that way, it becomes a strategic window into AWS and Azure workloads.
If they don’t, they risk destroying the very advantage that made Wiz valuable in the first place.
whobre 46 minutes ago [-]
For a second I thought it was Woz who was joining Google…
giancarlostoro 26 minutes ago [-]
Maybe someone typod in an email "I want you to buy woz" the i and o are next to each other on the keyboard. ;)
love2read 22 minutes ago [-]
Extra shade thrown at MoltBook (listed first) which was recently acq by Meta.
debarshri 1 hours ago [-]
Google SecOps (Chronicle) is becoming quite popular among the cybersec world. I think eventually there should be an integration play. It is also a way to create wedge into AWS and Azure customers.
Is that the kind of integration you are refering to?
redbell 49 minutes ago [-]
Wiz joins Waze & Waymo.. there's something suspicious with the letter W here :)
0_____0 31 minutes ago [-]
Wiz and Waze are both Israeli companies. Not that suspicious, I think it probably just sounds better in Hebrew.
sokz 17 minutes ago [-]
Wix too. Very interesting that founders of Waze and Wix have Unit 8200 pedigree and Wiz co-founder was part of an elite recruitment program in the IDF. On account of the mandatory draft, it was bound to happen but those three companies have very similar names as well.
alephnerd 16 minutes ago [-]
Everyone in Israel who is entrepreneurial tries to self-select into 8200 - it's the equivalent of American high schoolers who want to enter VC and tech entrepreneurship targeting CS@Stanford.
In Israel, the university matters less than the unit you served. For example, if you want to become a senior politician, you join Sayeret Matkal and if you want to become an academic you end up in Talpiot.
8200s success is largely due to a couple early exits by 8200 alums (Gili Raanan, Nir Zuk, Shlomo Kramer) who were biased in recruiting from their unit. 8200 alums aren't better or worse than other Israelis - they just have a better network.
And Israel has multiple SIGINT and offensive/defensive cybersecurity units, all of whom created similar networks as well.
sokz 7 minutes ago [-]
Network effects wasn't what I considered although I should have.
alephnerd 5 minutes ago [-]
It's the same in the US as well - if you join the right divisions and units and take advantage of educational programs with the GI Bill, you will open a lot of doors professionally speaking.
darth_aardvark 20 minutes ago [-]
Unlikely, since modern Hebrew doesn't have a letter for "w".
bonesss 7 minutes ago [-]
Is it possible the foreignness makes ‘W’ appealing as it signals cool modern tech alignment or something?
Like how ‘X’ attracts marketing and typographic knuckle-draggers in English, or how all our AI companies have butthole logos for reasons that only make sense if you understand the underlying companies and culture.
JoshTriplett 42 minutes ago [-]
They could put up a page for all three acquisitions, under "www".
kps 22 minutes ago [-]
Title should be: Wiz Waz
38 minutes ago [-]
xnorswap 46 minutes ago [-]
W = Winners, it's just science ;)
I bet someone has actually studied the effect of leading letters in startup names and funding & acquisitions, I vaguely seem to remember a story about it in the past.
yomismoaqui 3 minutes ago [-]
Also wankers, just saying...
pbiggar 22 minutes ago [-]
Good time to remember that Wiz' VC was accused of paying bribes to CISOs to buy their portfolio's software (of which Wiz is one).
> Two security executives told Forbes they rejected overtures from Raanan’s team after hearing about the firm’s “menu” of compensation. “I was completely aghast. It was against my principles,” one said.
PunchTornado 1 hours ago [-]
I don't understand Google's play here. Does it want Wiz to be a unique offer for GCP customers? or they will keep it cloud agnostic?
jcims 41 minutes ago [-]
Wiz customer here, when fully implemented it provides an incredibly detailed and comprehensive view of your infrastructure.
I'm curious how much of that information is going to pass between Wiz and Google Cloud product/sales. It's effectively x-ray vision into some huge workloads running on their competitors.
rabidonrails 21 minutes ago [-]
>>It's effectively x-ray vision into some huge workloads running on their competitors.
I wonder if there are antitrust lawyers watching this closely. Would be really interesting to get their perspective on this.
torginus 25 minutes ago [-]
Is this like Darktrace?
Apparently the cybersec bigwigs at our company love it, but for me I have to write a detailed explaination why another 'incident report' the clueless cybersecurity guys keep bothering me with is actually nonsense.
alephnerd 18 minutes ago [-]
Nope. Darktrace is crap verging on fraud. Wiz actually solves tangible CSPM and runtime issues.
raw_anon_1111 1 hours ago [-]
Thats the entire purpose, the reality is that large corporations are increasingly “multi cloud” and Google wants to have an offering for them and for companies that are on AWS and Azure to be able to move some of their workloads to GCP.
AWS and GCP also made a joint announcement about multi cloud networking for a similar reason
Probably a diversification play and a play to see out bigger contracts. If you've worked in the FEDRamp space, you may be aware that Wiz (last a checked, a year or so ago) is one of the few and possibly ownly player certified to operate in FedRAMP Medium/High deployments operating with the technology it does (eBPF instrumentation).
scottyah 8 minutes ago [-]
Google has really been expanding into DoD lately. I think they're realizing it's a large part of why AWS is so big and Azure is still alive.
tw04 1 hours ago [-]
>or they will keep it cloud agnostic?
They grossly overpaid if they aren't keeping it cloud agnostic. It's impressive software, but if it's only compatible with GCP it will not survive in this space.
aberoham 1 hours ago [-]
I'm really hoping this means GCP Security Command Center quickly gets subsumed by Wiz
htrp 39 minutes ago [-]
you mean there will now be three products instead of two
Google Security Center
Wiz
Google Agentic Wiz Security
cmrdporcupine 39 minutes ago [-]
If you think Google is capable of making a singular coherent decision on a topic like this, you're dreaming. There's likely multiple competing visions.
That said: the goal with Google M&A remains the same as always. Take competition off the board. I don't know this company or how they compete with Google, but 80% chance that's the play.
They are culturally incapable of merging other people's tech into their own stack and have both the tendency to rewrite everything from scratch on their own bespoke technologies and also internal engineering teams that will bristle at having a foreign body invade their cathedral.
You could say it would be talent acquisition but most everyone who comes from a startup walks as soon as their golden handcuffs loosen and they can find something else to do. Going from startup to Google is usually torturous.
Been through this 15 years ago. I don't think anything has changed.
newsclues 56 minutes ago [-]
Make it easy to use google cloud and plug into google ai
napolux 1 hours ago [-]
Congrats!
pbiggar 30 minutes ago [-]
As I mentioned at the time, the Wiz acquisition is the largest transfer of Israeli intelligence operatives into Big Tech in history.
It's a pity going public isn't worth it anymore.
The system working as intended.
“Competition is for losers” - Peter Thiel
Then Google will buy them too.
Israeli VC is uninterested in IPOs in general - too much of an operational headache and it's difficult to exit a position.
In most cases an IPO isn't worth it for founders because an IPO means you lose operational control.
If they don’t, they risk destroying the very advantage that made Wiz valuable in the first place.
Is that the kind of integration you are refering to?
In Israel, the university matters less than the unit you served. For example, if you want to become a senior politician, you join Sayeret Matkal and if you want to become an academic you end up in Talpiot.
8200s success is largely due to a couple early exits by 8200 alums (Gili Raanan, Nir Zuk, Shlomo Kramer) who were biased in recruiting from their unit. 8200 alums aren't better or worse than other Israelis - they just have a better network.
And Israel has multiple SIGINT and offensive/defensive cybersecurity units, all of whom created similar networks as well.
Like how ‘X’ attracts marketing and typographic knuckle-draggers in English, or how all our AI companies have butthole logos for reasons that only make sense if you understand the underlying companies and culture.
I bet someone has actually studied the effect of leading letters in startup names and funding & acquisitions, I vaguely seem to remember a story about it in the past.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/iainmartin/2024/10/28/this-vc-b...
> Two security executives told Forbes they rejected overtures from Raanan’s team after hearing about the firm’s “menu” of compensation. “I was completely aghast. It was against my principles,” one said.
I'm curious how much of that information is going to pass between Wiz and Google Cloud product/sales. It's effectively x-ray vision into some huge workloads running on their competitors.
I wonder if there are antitrust lawyers watching this closely. Would be really interesting to get their perspective on this.
Apparently the cybersec bigwigs at our company love it, but for me I have to write a detailed explaination why another 'incident report' the clueless cybersecurity guys keep bothering me with is actually nonsense.
AWS and GCP also made a joint announcement about multi cloud networking for a similar reason
https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/networking-and-content-delivery...
They grossly overpaid if they aren't keeping it cloud agnostic. It's impressive software, but if it's only compatible with GCP it will not survive in this space.
Google Security Center Wiz Google Agentic Wiz Security
That said: the goal with Google M&A remains the same as always. Take competition off the board. I don't know this company or how they compete with Google, but 80% chance that's the play.
They are culturally incapable of merging other people's tech into their own stack and have both the tendency to rewrite everything from scratch on their own bespoke technologies and also internal engineering teams that will bristle at having a foreign body invade their cathedral.
You could say it would be talent acquisition but most everyone who comes from a startup walks as soon as their golden handcuffs loosen and they can find something else to do. Going from startup to Google is usually torturous.
Been through this 15 years ago. I don't think anything has changed.
Here's my full thread on it: https://x.com/paulbiggar/status/1902329587050148068
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X_Wiz
[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43398518